. we have done a lot of things. we can bring that leadership to washington. >> you'll have had some experience working in the house. you have gotten to see up close the with the house functions. what you see as the principal differences a from then and the way the house is run now as you prepare to take the oath and throw -- oath? >> it was 12 years ago, when washington was quite a different place. back in those days, people had the opportunity to dialogue across the aisle. coming here from state government, where governor daniels has always had the principle that we will be a party of purpose, we will get things done and try to create environments will we have the opportunities for job growth, i share the frustration of almost every other american, which is the fact that washington is broken. it appears not much is getting done. hopefully we can bring common sense from indiana. our freshman class is a class of folks who of coming to washington to get things done. >> mr. messer, what is your job as a freshman president for republican? thatur principal's job is you tried to run the c

raising taxes on the upper income earners. you saw the washington post/abc news poll saying they were upset about the way the president was doing things and also people unhappy about the way the discussions are going. you have a majority of the country saying sit down with the president and raise rates on upper income americans, but on your right flank, you have republicans that are very upset about this. how do you cut a deal when you face those prospects? >> what i see the american people wanting and what those polls suggest is that's american people expect us to solve these problems. they want us to come up with a big solution so that we don't find ourselves in this situation a few months down the road. they don't want a band aid. there -- the fact there is a poll they are willing to pay more taxes shows they are willing to sacrifice. >> so why not do it? >> because america wants the federal government to sacrifice as well. >> aren't plans for that on the table? you put forward entitlement plans. why not do it? >> the president is calling for another stimulus, a $450 billion stimul

're asking for somebody to give more of their money into washington, at least be able to tell them that we are going to manage down the debt. that's what we're about here. which is why the focus on spending and how we have to ratchet down the spending in this town. and that's where we've heard no specifics or willingness on the part of the president to engage in discussions about specifics on spending. as far as the math is concerned, again, it was a very different president in the summer of 2011 when he said $1.2 trillion in additional revenues could be accomplished without hiking tax rates. that's what he said. so, again, all of a sudden that math doesn't work but it worked for 1.2 before. regardless, we sort of understand now, at least this round, where everyone is on taxes. let's get to the problem and maybe then we can resolve the taxes question. i yield back. mr. hoyer: well, we have a fundamental disagreement because the gentleman continues to want to focus on spending. i think that's right that we focus on spending. but, again, debt is not caused by spending. it is caused by buying

great things in montana. we won in washington state with jay insl e! news who has been focused on economic development. we won there in a tight race. we come into this with a temperaturic organization that is well organized and can win even when we have have less friends than our other side. having said that, in 2014, we're looking a huge number of races. there are 34 races. so 2014 is going to be a huge year. . we have an exintruder candidate. he started his own business when he was 14 years old. now running against a right-wing tea party candidate attorney general there who literally said when asked do you align yourself with the tea party, he said i don't just align myself with the tea party i am a tea party groupie. it was rejected and we have high hopes for terry in virginia and we're going to help him. in new jersey it is no question that governor christie is popular. there are a lot of candidates, strong candidates in nrge and we're going to work with all of them to come out to beat chris christie. >> governor, thank you for taming the time. a lot of people have brought

bells. it is potentially troublesome. >> i was going to ask a question about washington. in the case of susan rice and seems like, it we're going through exercise of pre betting. -- pre-betting. is this a new and healthy trend in washington? >> i do not think it is really new. i think today with the media, everybody knows about everything the minute it happens. perhaps it is new because of that. we are a democratic society, and open society. people have a right and an obligation to voice their opinions and vent. if your appointing someone to a high post, you need to look behind the credentials. chuck higgle is qualified to be secretary of defense -- hegel is qualified to be secretary of defense. you want to have these other things available as well. he wants someone to not be controversial. if there are controversial, because there will be distracted from what they ordinarily should be doing. you want to have a noncontroversial nominee. >> i wanted to press you a little bit on this. your colleague shelley berkley has said that chuck hagel is unacceptable for secretary of defense. do

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